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Scheduled Departures
DepPlatOriginating FromDestinationEarlier trains
Sunday, 25th August
Arriva Trains Wales18:03Cardiff CentralCaerphillyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill departures
Cardiff Central17:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Cardiff Central
Lisvane & Thornhill18:0318:03
Caerphilly18:13
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Caerphilly (Sun 2024-08-25 18:03)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Caerphilly
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Arriva Trains Wales18:28RhymneyCardiff CentralCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill departures
Rhymney17:00TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Rhymney to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:00)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Rhymney
Lisvane & Thornhill18:2818:28
Llanishen18:3318:33TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Llanishen (Sun 2024-08-25 18:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Llanishen
Heath High Level18:3818:38TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Heath High Level (Sun 2024-08-25 18:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Heath High Level
Cardiff Queen Street18:5318:53TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Cardiff Queen Street (Sun 2024-08-25 18:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Cardiff Queen Street
Cardiff Central19:01
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Cardiff Central (Sun 2024-08-25 18:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Cardiff Central
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Arriva Trains Wales18:33Cardiff CentralRhymneyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill departures
Cardiff Central18:00TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:00)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Cardiff Central
Lisvane & Thornhill18:3318:33
Caerphilly18:4318:43TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Caerphilly (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Caerphilly
Aber18:4818:48TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Aber (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Aber
Energlyn & Churchill Park18:5318:53TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Energlyn & Churchill Park (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Energlyn & Churchill Park
Llanbradach19:0319:03TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Llanbradach (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Llanbradach
Ystrad Mynach19:1319:13TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Ystrad Mynach (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Ystrad Mynach
Hengoed19:1819:18TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Hengoed (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Hengoed
Pengam19:2819:28TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Pengam (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Pengam
Gilfach Fargoed19:3319:33TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Gilfach Fargoed (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Gilfach Fargoed
Bargoed19:3819:38TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Bargoed (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Bargoed
Brithdir19:4319:43TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Brithdir (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Brithdir
Tir-Phil19:4819:48TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Tir-Phil (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Tir-Phil
Pontlottyn19:5319:53TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Pontlottyn (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Pontlottyn
Rhymney20:01
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Rhymney (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Rhymney
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Arriva Trains Wales18:58CaerphillyCardiff CentralCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
ArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill departures
Caerphilly18:48TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Caerphilly to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:48)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Caerphilly
Lisvane & Thornhill18:5818:58
Llanishen19:0319:03TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Llanishen (Sun 2024-08-25 18:58)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Llanishen
Heath High Level19:0819:08TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Heath High Level (Sun 2024-08-25 18:58)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Heath High Level
Cardiff Queen Street19:2319:23TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Cardiff Queen Street (Sun 2024-08-25 18:58)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Cardiff Queen Street
Cardiff Central19:31
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Cardiff Central (Sun 2024-08-25 18:58)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Cardiff Central
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Arriva Trains Wales19:03Cardiff CentralCaerphillyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill departures
Cardiff Central18:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Cardiff Central
Lisvane & Thornhill19:0319:03
Caerphilly19:13
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Caerphilly (Sun 2024-08-25 19:03)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Caerphilly
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Arriva Trains Wales19:28RhymneyCardiff CentralCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill departures
Rhymney18:00TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Rhymney to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:00)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Rhymney
Lisvane & Thornhill19:2819:28
Llanishen19:3319:33TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Llanishen (Sun 2024-08-25 19:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Llanishen
Heath High Level19:3819:38TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Heath High Level (Sun 2024-08-25 19:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Heath High Level
Cardiff Queen Street19:5319:53TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Cardiff Queen Street (Sun 2024-08-25 19:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Cardiff Queen Street
Cardiff Central20:01
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Cardiff Central (Sun 2024-08-25 19:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Cardiff Central
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Later trains
Scheduled Arrivals
ArrPlatOriginating FromDestinationEarlier trains
Sunday, 25th August
Arriva Trains Wales18:03Cardiff CentralCaerphillyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
ArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals
Cardiff Central17:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Cardiff Central
Cardiff Queen Street17:3817:38TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Queen Street to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:38)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Cardiff Queen Street
Heath High Level17:5317:53TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Heath High Level to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:53)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Heath High Level
Llanishen17:5817:58TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Llanishen to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:58)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Llanishen
Lisvane & Thornhill18:0318:03
Caerphilly18:13
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Caerphilly (Sun 2024-08-25 18:03)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Caerphilly
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Arriva Trains Wales18:28RhymneyCardiff CentralCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals
Rhymney17:00TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Rhymney to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:00)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Rhymney
Pontlottyn17:0817:08TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Pontlottyn to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:08)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Pontlottyn
Tir-Phil17:1317:13TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Tir-Phil to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:13)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Tir-Phil
Brithdir17:1817:18TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Brithdir to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:18)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Brithdir
Bargoed17:2317:23TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Bargoed to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:23)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Bargoed
Gilfach Fargoed17:2817:28TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Gilfach Fargoed to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Gilfach Fargoed
Pengam17:3317:33TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Pengam to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Pengam
Hengoed17:4317:43TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Hengoed to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:43)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Hengoed
Ystrad Mynach17:4817:48TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Ystrad Mynach to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:48)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Ystrad Mynach
Llanbradach17:5817:58TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Llanbradach to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 17:58)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Llanbradach
Energlyn & Churchill Park18:0318:03TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Energlyn & Churchill Park to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:03)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Energlyn & Churchill Park
Aber18:1318:13TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Aber to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:13)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Aber
Caerphilly18:1818:18TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Caerphilly to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:18)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Caerphilly
Lisvane & Thornhill18:2818:28
Cardiff Central19:01
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Cardiff Central (Sun 2024-08-25 18:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Cardiff Central
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Arriva Trains Wales18:33Cardiff CentralRhymneyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals
Cardiff Central18:00TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:00)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Cardiff Central
Cardiff Queen Street18:0818:08TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Queen Street to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:08)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Cardiff Queen Street
Heath High Level18:2318:23TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Heath High Level to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:23)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Heath High Level
Llanishen18:2818:28TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Llanishen to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Llanishen
Lisvane & Thornhill18:3318:33
Rhymney20:01
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Rhymney (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Rhymney
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Arriva Trains Wales18:58CaerphillyCardiff CentralCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals
Caerphilly18:48TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Caerphilly to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:48)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Caerphilly
Lisvane & Thornhill18:5818:58
Cardiff Central19:31
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Cardiff Central (Sun 2024-08-25 18:58)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Cardiff Central
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Arriva Trains Wales19:03Cardiff CentralCaerphillyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
ArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals
Cardiff Central18:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Cardiff Central
Cardiff Queen Street18:3818:38TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Queen Street to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:38)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Cardiff Queen Street
Heath High Level18:5318:53TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Heath High Level to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:53)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Heath High Level
Llanishen18:5818:58TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Llanishen to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:58)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Llanishen
Lisvane & Thornhill19:0319:03
Caerphilly19:13
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Caerphilly (Sun 2024-08-25 19:03)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Caerphilly
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Arriva Trains Wales19:28RhymneyCardiff CentralCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals
Rhymney18:00TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Rhymney to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:00)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Rhymney
Pontlottyn18:0818:08TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Pontlottyn to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:08)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Pontlottyn
Tir-Phil18:1318:13TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Tir-Phil to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:13)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Tir-Phil
Brithdir18:1818:18TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Brithdir to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:18)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Brithdir
Bargoed18:2318:23TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Bargoed to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:23)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Bargoed
Gilfach Fargoed18:2818:28TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Gilfach Fargoed to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Gilfach Fargoed
Pengam18:3318:33TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Pengam to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Pengam
Hengoed18:4318:43TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Hengoed to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:43)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Hengoed
Ystrad Mynach18:4818:48TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Ystrad Mynach to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:48)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Ystrad Mynach
Llanbradach18:5818:58TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Llanbradach to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 18:58)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Llanbradach
Energlyn & Churchill Park19:0319:03TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Energlyn & Churchill Park to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 19:03)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Energlyn & Churchill Park
Aber19:1319:13TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Aber to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 19:13)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Aber
Caerphilly19:1819:18TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Caerphilly to Lisvane & Thornhill (Sun 2024-08-25 19:18)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill arrivals from Caerphilly
Lisvane & Thornhill19:2819:28
Cardiff Central20:01
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lisvane & Thornhill to Cardiff Central (Sun 2024-08-25 19:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Lisvane & Thornhill departures to Cardiff Central
Service:
Bus - Replacement due to engineering work
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Speed:
mph
Later trains

CAUTION: Data is updated weekly and may not reflect unplanned dispruptions such as essential engineering works, weather or otherwise. Live train times can be found on our Stationboard pages. Train schedules data courtesy of ATOC. Last updated: 2024-08-08.

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